Comments for James Dalman: It's Just Who I Am! http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:49:25 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Is Church Marketing A Sin? Part Two by John Panico http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/is-church-marketing-a-sin-part-two/#comment-2609 John Panico Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:49:25 +0000 http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/is-church-marketing-a-sin-part-two/#comment-2609 Different ways of marketing may entail different costs too. The usual way of getting what you paid for. The more important thing with church marketing is the need to treat it a a product with a sensitive reputation. It could be handled just like any product but with extreme caution not to cross the line for it to be branded as a purchased good. The cheesiness you referred is more of a required element rather than an option. Especially for the traditional believers. A marketer playing both sides, if handled correctly, should be able to deliver satisfactorily. Different ways of marketing may entail different costs too. The usual way of getting what you paid for. The more important thing with church marketing is the need to treat it a a product with a sensitive reputation. It could be handled just like any product but with extreme caution not to cross the line for it to be branded as a purchased good. The cheesiness you referred is more of a required element rather than an option. Especially for the traditional believers. A marketer playing both sides, if handled correctly, should be able to deliver satisfactorily.

]]> Comment on Give and You Shall Receive. Guaranteed! by Clement Dlamini http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/give-and-you-shall-receive-guaranteed/#comment-2608 Clement Dlamini Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:17:02 +0000 http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/give-and-you-shall-receive-guaranteed/#comment-2608 My firm belief is that I give to God for who He is, not for what He has done or what He is about to do for me. It is my practice that I honor God with my substance and He decides how He wants to bless me, I don't give to Him to get more money, but I do it so that He does as He pleases in my life, simply because I know He has "good plans for, plans to prosper me and plans to give me a good life." I cannot therefore determine for myself what is good for me, He knows what is good for me, without me "even opening my mouth to speak." Therefore, giving to me is not an exchange for blessings, but it is an honor that I give to God for knowing me. My firm belief is that I give to God for who He is, not for what He has done or what He is about to do for me. It is my practice that I honor God with my substance and He decides how He wants to bless me, I don’t give to Him to get more money, but I do it so that He does as He pleases in my life, simply because I know He has “good plans for, plans to prosper me and plans to give me a good life.” I cannot therefore determine for myself what is good for me, He knows what is good for me, without me “even opening my mouth to speak.” Therefore, giving to me is not an exchange for blessings, but it is an honor that I give to God for knowing me.

]]> Comment on Is Church Marketing A Sin? by Leo http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/is-church-marketing-a-sin/#comment-2607 Leo Mon, 25 May 2009 08:20:44 +0000 http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/?p=233#comment-2607 Chris, I think the danger with church marketing is when the focus of this "marketing" changes from focusing on Jesus to focusing on an organization called a church. One praises Jesus; the other praises us. In fact, I wrote a bit of rant on church marketing <a HREF="http://roadtopriesthood.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/is-selling-the-idea-of-jesus-wrong/" rel="nofollow">here if you or anyone else commenting is interested. I made three points on the dangers of church marketing, which I'm writing from the viewpoint of someone seeking Jesus in their life but not previously familiar about what a relationship with Christ is about: 1) Church marketing makes a church seem like an exclusive club. 2) Church marketing really puts the focus on ourselves with Jesus as subtext. 3) Church marketing make churches seem disingenuous and patronizing. Chris,

I think the danger with church marketing is when the focus of this “marketing” changes from focusing on Jesus to focusing on an organization called a church. One praises Jesus; the other praises us.

In fact, I wrote a bit of rant on church marketing here if you or anyone else commenting is interested.

I made three points on the dangers of church marketing, which I’m writing from the viewpoint of someone seeking Jesus in their life but not previously familiar about what a relationship with Christ is about:

1) Church marketing makes a church seem like an exclusive club.
2) Church marketing really puts the focus on ourselves with Jesus as subtext.
3) Church marketing make churches seem disingenuous and patronizing.

]]> Comment on The Absolutely Best Branding Tip for Churches by The Small Business: Bridging the Digital Divide « AxisPortals Aphorisms http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-absolutely-best-branding-tip-for-churches/#comment-2606 The Small Business: Bridging the Digital Divide « AxisPortals Aphorisms Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:18:16 +0000 http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/?p=230#comment-2606 [...] Online Branding (for everything from chefs to churches), [...] [...] Online Branding (for everything from chefs to churches), [...]

]]> Comment on The Most Recognized Church Brands: Part 3 by kim http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2007/07/25/the-most-recognized-church-brands-part-3/#comment-2605 kim Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:32:58 +0000 http://onestorymedia.com/2007/07/25/the-most-recognized-church-brands-part-3/#comment-2605 Totally true. If they don't mention bringing people do God- how can a church be worshipping Him? and if you're not worshiping God, what are you worshipping? Totally true. If they don’t mention bringing people do God- how can a church be worshipping Him? and if you’re not worshiping God, what are you worshipping?

]]> Comment on Is Church Marketing A Sin? Part Two by Bob Schmidt http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/is-church-marketing-a-sin-part-two/#comment-2604 Bob Schmidt Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:06:07 +0000 http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/is-church-marketing-a-sin-part-two/#comment-2604 I think this is a great topic and a question I have asked myself. Our church over the past year has been reaching out into the community using door hangers, sending postcards to friends and families of members of our church and handing out business cards with our church info on to people we meet. I have put together a website with some outreach ideas we are using at our church. They have been very effective so far. www.time2reach.org Based on this blog I would love some feedback on the materials we are sending out. Also, ways we may be able to improve what we are doing now or maybe some ideas on how we can reach out in other ways. I want to reach as many people as I can for Christ. Thank you for your input. I think this is a great topic and a question I have asked myself. Our church over the past year has been reaching out into the community using door hangers, sending postcards to friends and families of members of our church and handing out business cards with our church info on to people we meet. I have put together a website with some outreach ideas we are using at our church. They have been very effective so far. http://www.time2reach.org Based on this blog I would love some feedback on the materials we are sending out. Also, ways we may be able to improve what we are doing now or maybe some ideas on how we can reach out in other ways. I want to reach as many people as I can for Christ. Thank you for your input.

]]> Comment on Is Church Marketing A Sin? Part Two by Steve Kryger http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/is-church-marketing-a-sin-part-two/#comment-2603 Steve Kryger Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:54:31 +0000 http://thebrandingshed.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/is-church-marketing-a-sin-part-two/#comment-2603 Hi James, I've just come across your blog - nice work. I've just launched a new site to help churches and Christian ministries use technology and the internet better. Check out www.communicatejesus.com. Hi James,

I’ve just come across your blog – nice work. I’ve just launched a new site to help churches and Christian ministries use technology and the internet better. Check out http://www.communicatejesus.com.

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